The "Macro Scare"

Alright, so recently there’s been a lot of debate and arguing and talking about macros being utilized in the Casino. The developers have mentioned that it will not be tolerated and is being looked into, but I’m a bit confused; What’s so bad about macros? Why are they not tolerated? What steps will be taken to prevent players from using them?
I’ve seen some, and heard some stories of, some players ‘calling out’ random players via chat and assuming that, when not responded to, the accused player is using macros.
When I personally play slots, several times I’d make the game window small and idly press space while listening to music, watching videos, etc. and am not, one bit, listening to or paying attention to chat/game audio.
I’d just like to know the mentality behind not tolerating the use of macros, and what steps would be made against them.

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If you can’t do it in real life, why allow it in the game? Put yourself in the devs shoes. How would you feel if you worked your ass off on this new update for half a year (or more?) just for people to take the lazy way out of, let’s face it, easy grinding. I’d feel a bit irritated and insulted personally.

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what the fun in having it play for you?

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Also, this would encourage people to just sit on a machine endlessly and they’d leave the game running and go about their day for hours on end before returning and all the while hogging up a machine someone else could use. If everyone gets on that bandwagon, it would be no time before all the official servers have every slot occupied non-stop with people macroing.

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This is a good point, I would probably also not enjoy it if Id worked on something only for it to be done mindlessly. One thing I do want to mention, is, what is the difference between playing it absent-mindedly (ex. watching a video and pressing space) and having a macro do it for you? I havent used macros, but Id imagine its the same. The reason the casino is used is for profit, which happens either way.

This is another good point, and while this is true, what is the difference between one player playing the slots for profit while pressing space, and one using a macro?

From my viewpoint, you have the same end result, but instead of a person investing their time in pressing the button, its automatic instead.

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Simple. Not everyone is “honest” like that. It’s too easy to get distracted and walk away from your PC and let it “carry on”. You allow macros, you take away the human element and create a huge disconnect from the game. It’s just overall a bad thing for the community.

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Ah, I see what you mean. I suppose everybody/their experiences are different, but for me the Casino has only meant people repeatedly saying similar things in chat- Talking about their luck (Grand Quest trips, Wheel Of Money nothings, Jackpot "gg"s and celebrating, etc.) and things like that. Ive not really had any social or communicative experiences or influences from the casino, slots or not.
I also realize that AFKing would be an issue with it, but in the other hand, Ive already seen/heard of players sitting at the slots for hours on end, performing the same activities and behaviors as a person AFKing with a macro.
Another thing is, that, other than taking up slot machines (which, keep in mind, players can already do on their own, macro or not) and playing them like everybody else, it doesn’t bring negative effect to others playing without macros; it doesnt take anything away from them, and it doesnt take from their Casino experience.

We are currently working on a fix for the macro situation.

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I personally have used a macro but I wish I didn’t. It might not make much sense but it just feels more fun to actually do it yourself and experience yourself gaining the units or losing the units. If you just sit there AFK for 3 days straight or some shit with a macro you come back with a lot and then you end up buying everything and the game feels boring. I have only done it for like 20 mins or so maybe but I came back with a lot more than I started with and it just didn’t feel right.

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I fell like people are completely overreavting, just look at the posts in this thread:


I don’t see macros as a problem, if you want to leave TU in the background grinding casino I think that’s fine, you still have the same chance of winning and you can still lose money. Really I domt want to be sat all day mashing space until money comes out. The only slot machine I actually get fun from is grand quest, the others are just a case of mashing space and hoping for money.

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I don’t really know why people wouldn’t think macros are unfair, to be honest. I’m sure almost all the people using macros don’t actually have the patience or time to spin the slots all day, while the actual players do.
Even if you’re tuned out watching Netflix or whatever, you’re still putting in effort constantly pressing the space bar, and you’re also severely limiting what you can actually do. Want to play something else? Well, better be content with playing mobile games since you’re not going to be able to do much else with just one hand, and don’t get too into it because you’re going to be too busy pressing space. Want to get something to eat? Better make it fast because your machine’s going to get stolen. I certainly wouldn’t have the patience to handle that, and I sit around playing games all day.
Macros also mean people keep hogging the slots even after the jackpots are taken, meaning less spots are open for people who actually want to play. If, hypothetically, the average player plays slots for 20 minutes before quitting (which is probably way too generous), 10 slots would be used by 720 players per day, given that they’ve been played on constantly. However, if macroers were involved (let’s say they’re at the slots for 2 hours at a time), that would go down to a much smaller 120 slots per day. So yeah, much less availability for people who want to play, although I don’t think it’s that bad on the actual servers.

TL;DR: Macroers don’t put in any effort while actual players do. Also, they hog the machines.

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Macroing is against our EULA, end of story. We’re working on a solution.

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Just don’t do it, it’s not fair to the people who are literally sitting their for hours watching everymoment.

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The best solution would be Tower Unite having enough gamemodes and big pay outs that would no longer make players feel like they require to grind just to decorate their place the way they want.

Like no one ever wins ballrace and thinks “haha i defeated my friends!!!” they think “alright atleast i got the biggest reward”

Plus news of no tradable tower units between players only worsens this situation.

Just yeah i really don’t want to feel like i require to continuesly grind something to get nice furniture for my condo in a damn social game. Like i visit the condos of the most creative people and they just say “yeah ive been playing ballrace by myself non stop”. That doesn’t sound fun lmao, especially if we would have to do it every time new items get added.

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… Says you :person_with_pouting_face:

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With slots, having to mash space bar every 5 seconds might be a bit fun for the first time, but it does encourage people to use macro. Especially with the odds nerf.

I’d love to see improvement on the games that actually require you to think. Nobody plays video poker or blackjack for that matter. They simply dont pay you enough, nor is it any risky. I really love video poker and recently learned about blackjack. I just find it disappointing that pressing spacebar mindlessly is more rewarding than actually planning and interacting with cards.

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all I can say is that the EULA says it all

Holy shit people are actually trying to defend using macros by using arguments like “i don’t want to sit there all day mashing a button”. WTF? all you are doing is BOT farming units which is definitely cheating. If people keep trying to justify this pathetic, lazy cheating they’ll never add trading into the game at this rate.

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They most likely defend it because they don’t wanna waste their hours on a jackpot. Some people legitimately wasted 3 days of their lifetime, trying to get the jackpot. You slot also gets taken by somebody if you take a break longer than a minute.

No doubt that it’s cheating of course.

If only there was more interactivity with slot playing, while making it rewarding at the same time, then maybe the amouth of macro using gets reduced.

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So it’s a mentality of a child thinking " I want money but i don’t want to actually put any of my time or effort into it" While we’re at it lets make a macro for golf that takes perfect shots for you because playing a game is too much effort for some people.

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