Emulator Mod(?)

[loiloiloi]

@Sabrina

sigh…That’s not how that works.

Then explain it to me please

@Sabrina

You must forget that the Howl item was being sold for actual money.

The howl was not sold for actual money, the only way to get a howl using money was to pay another person who had the howl. Valve never sold a single howl.

[Sabrina]

@loiloiloi

Then explain it to me please

I did already. Read above.

[loiloiloi]

@Sabrina

I did already. Read above.

I responded to all your posts already with why I disagree, you’ll have to introduce a new argument here

[Sabrina]

@loiloiloi

I responded to all your posts already with why I disagree, you’ll have to introduce a new argument here

You can disagree with me, but I’ve laid out HOW IT WORKS. It’s not my view of how it works, that’s how it works.

[DrDoctor]

You would think so, @MaskedKatz.

To answer your question again, the answer is it’s possible. I imagine someone will, but it will only be on custom servers.

[DrDoctor]

@loiloiloi

The howl was not sold for actual money, the only way to get a howl using money was to pay another person who had the howl. Valve never sold a single howl.

I…what?!

Valve sold the keys and cases which was the only way to get the Howl. It wasn’t free or randomly dropped.

@loiloiloi

I responded to all your posts already with why I disagree, you’ll have to introduce a new argument here

Here’s how it works. This isn’t how I think it works, this isn’t how I imagine it works, this is how it works: PixelTail cannot, repeat cannot get in trouble for what the modders do and release for free. The two examples you picked, The Howl and the stolen Aion assets, were released for money. Money is where the law comes in, but the law doesn’t care about free mods, especially since modders will credit whatever assets they used. Think about Smash Flash 2 or the countless Mario World flash remakes. They are released for free, and it’s pathetically obvious what the source material is. The creators of said games claim no copyright and release the games for free, as such, it falls under fair use.

This whole discussion stems from you misunderstanding Zak’s words.

@loiloiloi

“Zak: Yeah, I don’t expect anyone to write a SNES emulator in LUA, that would be disastrous and terrible, and I don’t recommend it.”

Have you ever coded in Lua? I have. It’s a mess. I would give you a million dollars if you could build a working emulator using Lua only. But, because UE4 is built in C++ and Lua, emulators can be easily made. Zak isn’t referring to copyright, he’s referring to codebase.

@loiloiloi

I responded to all your posts already with why I disagree

You’ve never said once why you disagree. All your responses are just clapbacks that make no sense or link to an irrelevant article or incident that doesn’t apply. Your argument is valid in a sense, but valid if and only if PixelTail were to condone emulators being used on their official servers. If it’s a custom server using a custom mod, there’s very little they can do about it, and PixelTail would actually hold legal immunity. The modders would be held responsible.

Before you respond, I highly recommend going on Google and looking up some things about how mods fit into copyright law, and the multiple incidents within the “paid mods” weekend that Bethesda and Valve pulled out of their arses.

Now that’s it. I’m done. Moderators are going to be locking this thread any time now and we’re all going to get in trouble.

@MaskedKatz, feel free to message me or @Sabrina to talk more about how modding and emulators will work in TU.

Now, I’m hopping on the Tower. Minigolf is calling my name.

Well, that's enough life for me for one day - Jontron

[SirParadox]

Jeez, this is getting out of hand.

[loiloiloi]

@DrDoctor

I…what?!

Valve sold the keys and cases which was the only way to get the Howl. It wasn’t free or randomly dropped.

That’s not selling the Howl. No one could buy a Howl from valve.

@DrDoctor

Here’s how it works. This isn’t how I think it works, this isn’t how I imagine it works, this is how it works: PixelTail cannot, repeat cannot get in trouble for what the modders do and release for free. The two examples you picked, The Howl and the stolen Aion assets, were released for money. Money is where the law comes in, but the law doesn’t care about free mods, especially since modders will credit whatever assets they used. Think about Smash Flash 2 or the countless Mario World flash remakes. They are released for free, and it’s pathetically obvious what the source material is. The creators of said games claim no copyright and release the games for free, as such, it falls under fair use.

This whole discussion stems from you misunderstanding Zak’s words.

That’s very useful, thanks. No one had mentioned fair use at all in this thread previously.

@DrDoctor

Have you ever coded in Lua?

Yes

@DrDoctor

You’ve never said once why you disagree. All your responses are just clapbacks that make no sense or link to an irrelevant article or incident that doesn’t apply. Your argument is valid in a sense, but valid if and only if PixelTail were to condone emulators being used on their official servers. If it’s a custom server using a custom mod, there’s very little they can do about it, and PixelTail would actually hold legal immunity. The modders would be held responsible.

I was only really thinking about official servers

@DrDoctor

Before you respond, I highly recommend going on Google and looking up some things about how mods fit into copyright law, and the multiple incidents within the “paid mods” weekend that Bethesda and Valve pulled out of their arses.

Why? Didn’t you just explain it in this very post?

@DrDoctor

Now that’s it. I’m done. Moderators are going to be locking this thread any time now and we’re all going to get in trouble.

How dare we be cautious about fair use, it’s not like copyright is being majorly abused these days

@DrDoctor

Now, I’m hopping on the Tower. Minigolf is calling my name.

Have fun

[Spriteclad]

Okay, enough arguing. Stopping this thread in its tracks before it turns into even more of a clustertruck.

THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED.