# \[1.1.2.1\] Naming doesn't save for non-hosts using Manipulate window

**URL:** <https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/t/1-1-2-1-naming-doesnt-save-for-non-hosts-using-manipulate-window/54506>\
**Category:** Bug Report\
**Created:** [January 2, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/t/1-1-2-1-naming-doesnt-save-for-non-hosts-using-manipulate-window/54506 "2026-01-02T18:08:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![anna](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/user_avatar/forums.pixeltailgames.com/anna/32/75789_2.png) [@anna](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/u/anna)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/t/1-1-2-1-naming-doesnt-save-for-non-hosts-using-manipulate-window/54506/1 "2026-01-02T18:08:26Z")

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If you are a non-host in host’s Condo; naming objects, volumes, etc using **Manipulate** window + closing; naming changes won’t save. This bug is consistent.

# Steps to Reproduce

-Go to someone else’s Condo as non-host  
-Have the full builder permissions to edit stuff.  
-Rename anything using **Manipulate** window the close the window by pressing “X” button on it.  
-Leave the condo and re-enter condo.

You’ll notice that all of naming changes you made never happened.

## What I expected to happen

Naming changes made by non-host builders to apply and stay.

## What happened

Naming changes didn’t get saved. I don’t think anyone else can see your naming changes either.

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# Notes / Media

Although renaming with **Manipulate** window as non-host doesn’t work; you can use **Editing** window to rename objects; it’ll work just fine so use this as workaround for now. It’s consistent too!

 ![image](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/7/5784eca8d1241afd2ee4c29c3161c02cbf5c7bf6.jpeg)

Here’s a video of me as non-host making naming changes; leave and return and naming changes I made vanishes.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Rgo4OtPrK-Q/maxresdefault.jpg "Naming Doesn't Save for non hosts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgo4OtPrK-Q)

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**Author:** ![OuTSMoKE](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/user_avatar/forums.pixeltailgames.com/outsmoke/32/71263_2.png) [@OuTSMoKE](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/u/OuTSMoKE)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.pixeltailgames.com/t/1-1-2-1-naming-doesnt-save-for-non-hosts-using-manipulate-window/54506/2 "2026-01-03T17:16:31Z")

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I would guess this is the same thing plaguing multiple items with dedis, since even the “host” is a client on them.