Trumps hair as a hat

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“Let’s include the hair of a very controversial politician as a hat in our game about chilling, having a good time and not worrying about a thing!”

Yeah, no.

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This is the same game where 50% of condos lead to a den of porn, and you’re concerned about the controversy of a funny looking hair style.

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Theres a difference between rule 34 that has been drawn in MS paint and the hair style of an extremely controversial politician.

What i’m saying is, many, many, more flame wars would start over trumps hair, whereas most people are probably used to seeing weird stuff on the internet.

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Yes, there is a difference; the former is less age appropriate, arguably more offensive (generally speaking), and can be found in the game at this very moment. I don’t have a problem with that, just as I don’t have a problem with Trumps hair as a silly cosmetic item.

I don’t see why a big deal has to be made out of it. Just include it in an update when the next wave of cosmetics comes out, and name it something more creative than “trumps hair.” At this point its nothing more than a silly hairstyle that has an aesthetic reference to the hair of the current president, someone who will be seen and discussed by millions daily over the course of the next four years.

Children shouldn’t even be on the internet unsupervised anyway.

Look, i’m not trying to make a big deal out of this, i’m just saying that, the internet being… well, the internet, people will probably flip shit over a silly wig that looks like trump’s hair, because nobody can have an opinion when it comes to politics, apparently. I just want to avoid unnecessary political flame wars.

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I can see exactly where vtipoman is coming from, and I agree with him. It’s not about if the item would be silly, it’s about the potential political statement adding an item like that could say. I doubt Pixeltail wants to affiliate with either political party for various good reasons, and adding Trumps hair is just begging for people to get worked up. I don’t see fun sprouting from an item like this, I see heated debates and angry comments. If you don’t care, fine. That doesn’t mean other people don’t care either. I can easily see overly heated debates springing up and ruining the experience of players.

And another thing: bringing up condo porn completely sidesteps the problem currently being brought up and really isn’t a valid point at all. It’s not that condo porn isn’t a concern, but it doesn’t relate the the argument against your idea. Condo porn is something the players do in their own servers using their own resources. It is not endorsed in any way by the developers, they just happened to provide the tools that allow it. Adding Trump’s hair as an item is something expressly done by the devs, and as such using it is clearly endorsed by them. Whatever message this sends likely isn’t the message Pixeltail wishes to send.

I just see it as a bad idea. Could it be silly? Yes, but the political statements would likely be detrimental to Pixeltail and I just can’t trust us players to keep it as a silly item without letting it spark angry arguments.

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Oh sure, just as people shouldn’t be triggered by a silly hair style in a video game. But they will be as you said.

I know you’re not. What I fail to understand though is why we should place such emphasis on a few flame wars when there are so many aspects of the game that can already be considered offensive and fuel for the fire so to speak. When this game fully releases there will be flaming, there will be people trolling servers, and if it’s not over a single cosmetic it will be over everything else. I consider that unavoidable, temporary, and of minimal consequence.

If you don’t think it would be an interesting cosmetic I can respect your perspective, but I don’t think a few easily offended reactionaries should ever be a reason to stifle the hypothetical creative choices of the developers.

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I don’t see that example as being a sidestep, because it is arguably one of many things that the right reactionary could and will start flame wars over. Yet would that be a valid reason to say that people should no longer be able to customize canvases or other items? Because it could lead to division and flaming? No. Of course not.

I don’t believe in applying that reasoning selectively. If we take the stance that the benefits of interesting and/or funny content outweigh the potential cons brought out by sensitive reactionaries, we should take that stance across the board. The idea of not adding this on the basis of how certain people will react to a hair style in a video game is ridiculous to me, and I think it places too much emphasis on the importance of overly sensitive people.

I personally advocate for a fun environment which is something that sometimes comes hand in hand with controversy. That is of greater fundamental importance to me than the self-censorship of the developers on the behalf of hypothetically offended parties.

I will say that I think your point about the item sending a bad message message is somewhat valid, although I also think Pixeltail would control how subtly they replicate/add the item, so that issue could be mitigated. Ultimately I leave that perspective to the developers.

I agree with tentacle

Here’s how you make it subtle…
The hair style and make it be one million units.

Because you know, “a small loan of a million dollars”

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The difference between Trump hair and porn dens is simple.
Porn dens are created by the players and can be avoided/have their porn turned off (with parental controls).
The hair would be added and officialy supported by Pixeltail devs and would be unavoidable. Wherever in TU you go, you might run into someone wearing the Trump hair.

TU is a game about escaping reality and staying in a perfect virtual summer resort, it’s about playing games and having fun without having to worry about the real world. I don’t want to be reminded about real world politicians and the problems associated with them and I’m really sick of people bringing the stuff up all the time. “Trump sucks!” “Trump’s great!” “Hillary sucks!” “Leftists are crazy maniacs!” “Rightists are crazy maniacs!” Goddamit, there ARE forums dedicated to politics. Why bring them up here?

I just don’t see a reason why it SHOULD be included, to be honest. It adds very little (a single funny hat lol xddd) and causes way too many problems, not only the aforementioned flamewars.

Adding one controversial item could make people demand others. If we’d have Trumps hair, why not a bible item? What about a burka? Some religious symbols, perhaps?

Imagine people joining TU for the first time and seeing a Trump hair item. Wouldn’t leave a good impression, would it?"

What about the loss of artistic dignity? Personally, when I see Trump-related items in videogames, I think “man, these devs are really trying hard to be relevant”. That’s not a thought I want associated with TU.

Sorry about the long post. It’s way too late in the night and I should be sleeping, but TU is something very dear to me, and I think that adding such item would “taint” it, for a lack of a better word. Political discussion doesn’t belong in this game.

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People will get offended over anything but nobody made a big deal out of the buyable Obama cutouts and the Obama cutout minigame in GMT. I’m pretty impartial to the whole thing, but it’s not like we’re talking about adding Hitler’s mustache or something.

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The issue here is that you’re assuming that the majority of people (minus, as you call, the “overly-sensitive people”) would find this sort of thing to be fun and/or interesting.

But it’s not. I’m sure a lot of people are tired of seeing politics in the news all the time, and don’t want to have that seep into something they do for fun. I’m also sure there are a good amount of people who don’t like pop culture references in their video games, especially as they get old fast. cough Atom Universe cough

Politically, there are people out there who don’t approve of the current president, and could interpret something like that as the team supporting him. Or, there could be people that approve of the current president but find something like that as the devs mocking him.

Plus, any of the devs could personally hold any of the above ideas as well. If so, it’s not going to be in the game, period. They aren’t obligated to follow any of the suggestions posted here.


Just do it yourself after workshop if you really want it.

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We’ll call it the “Chaplin.”

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Can I downvote a suggestion?

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You say that, but unless you disable profile pictures, text chat, and microphone support, without becoming a troglodyte, chances are you will run into something you will find objectionable eventually. Yes, you may if you’re very unlucky run into someone wearing a hairstyle you personally wouldn’t wear. So what?

TU is escapism, if a single hairstyle shatters that for you then that sounds like a personal problem. We’re not talking about adding annual electoral campaigns to the game, or even political symbolism which people can already implement right now. We’re talking about a hair style based on someone that is incredibly prevalent in mainstream media. Their silly hairstyle, that is all. To equate that to “if someone wears that hair, they’re a x” is absurd.

It’s something I’ve had friends and random TU players bring up/support in the past, and I made the thread today because someone suggested I should put the idea forward. I think that some people would find it to be a simple, amusing novelty that some players would appreciate. A small interesting cosmetic addition to be implemented in the next wave of hats.

People might demand others, and satiating those demands is entirely up to the developers. Two things on this note; for one, it’s hair, not a swastika. Secondly, they could add Hitler as a playable character for all I personally care. (I met him a lot in Gmod, nice guy.) I’m not here advocating that, but I wouldn’t give a shit if they did. So if someone wants to make/suggest a burqa, go for it.

We live in the age of sensitivity, so I’m certain someone will take offense to it in the same way that I feel there’s always something to offend sensitive people. So sure, a tiny amount of people might take it far too seriously, as they could with anything else in the game. The depiction of violence, peoples custom condos, peoples usernames, (which could include trump) gambling, etc. There comes a point where you have to evaluate the significance of one persons offense.

The loss of artistic dignity comes the moment you censor yourself to pander to the easily offended.

Never apologize for a long post.

And now we’re delving into the realm of insults

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Out of curiosity, I checked the votes, and for some reason it says I voted for this, even though I didn’t. Is this a common glitch?

It says you voted next to 3 people yeah? I’m getting that aswell